Obama Zombies Brainwashing Your Children

This should scare the crap out of you whether you are a parent or not.  I am blessed in that for the time being I can afford to send my children to a private Christian school.  We are involved enough in the school and more importantly with our children’s lives that I can be pretty sure that my children aren’t getting this brain-dead, mind-numbed robot brainwashing.  If your children are in the public schools, or any school that accepts government money, and therefore government direction on what to teach, then they are at risk.

My family already has a savior.  We are looking for a president.  What we have is a pretender to the office of the President of the United States who fancies himself to be the messiah.  Narcissism in its most refined form.

What do God and Obama have in common?  Neither one has a birth certificate.  What makes them different?  God doesn’t think He’s Barack Obama.

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31 Responses

  1. If you weren’t so scary you would probably be funny. You really honestly believe this?

    — hippieprof

  2. Well, Mr. Hippie Professor, the video speaks volumes. What I do believe about this is that there are a lot of nut jobs out their searching for a savior in a man who has no real accomplishments in his adult life. What scares me is the cult of personality surrounding Obama. He has a proven track record as a liar and deceiver, yet the truly weak minded who haven’t been able to see through is smooth talking facade continue to do fanatical things in his name as if he were indeed the messiah.

    There are some stereotypes that go along with being either a hippie or a professor, or both. The worst of them all in my mind are the stereotypes of tending to be very liberal, and supporting communist/Marxist ideologies. Would you by chance fit that stereotype, or is the name merely a “screenplay?” If you are indeed a hippie professor, I suspect that you believe Obama is doing a great job. I’m not trying to be condescending, I really want to know what you do believe and why. I don’t want to throw spears, I want to have an open debate. I’m not really that scary. So what do you say? The floor is yours.

  3. Hey Texan….

    I too want an open converation – and I am always happy to have one. I tend to leave short pithy comments the first time I post somewhere because sometimes when I leave longer posts they are moderated out. Thank you for allowing my post through, and sorry if it seemed aggressive.

    As for who I am – indeed I am a college professor. Am I a hippie? Hmmmmm – sorta. I live in a subdivision with a wife and kids and have good family values and I don’t do drugs – so in that way no. I do play in a rock band – so the hippie image works for me that way. The “hippie professor” stereotypes really don’t fit all that much. I am liberal, but hardly a Marxist or socialist or anything like that. Most of my views are moderately left instead of far left – and I even have some right-of-center views.

    The reason I responded like I did is I just don’t agree that there is any organized indoctrination attempt going on. Obama is not some dictator-in-waiting trying to indoctrinate an “Obama youth.” I really don’t like the video any more than you do – but it looks to me like something organized locally and it isn’t the way most liberals want to see things – at least the ones I know.

    You are right to say that the stereotype of college professors is liberal – perhaps not as far left as you imagine – but liberal nonetheless. I work each and every day with a bunch of these people and I can attest that none of us (at least the ones I know) are wanting some sort of totalitarianism.

    I have the same American values that you do. I believe in freedom and democracy. Obama does too. Sure – we believe in a bigger role for government that you – but it decidedly isn’t Marxism.

    Thanks for listening….

    — hippieprof

  4. Regarding communism, rather than attempt to write about it here…I STRONGLY urge you and EVERYONE to watch this video shot Sept. 3, 2009 of Elena Chitta. Elena Chitta was born in Poland in 1939 at the beginning of WWII. She later survived 30 years in Communist Romania under the dictator Nicolae Ceauşescu. She spoke at the Marble Falls Tea Party of the dangers of communism. Listen to her story and warnings and please forward this link to everyone you know.

    Doc’

  5. Hippieprof,
    Thanks for engaging in our small corner of the great debate. Having people from both sides who are honestly willing to present their arguments is the only way real solutions are found.

    I wouldn’t go as far as to say that there is no organized indoctrination going on. You have to dig a little and look a little farther back in time to follow the trail. You can look at the web sites and other documents from communist party and other organizations and find that they know/believe that controlling the educational system is the only way to gain long term control of our society. Without a “road to Damascus” moment, most adults are set in their ways and beliefs. However, children are little balls of clay that can be formed into whatever you desire. The various communist organizations have known this for a long time. They also know that they can’t change our system over night. They have been chipping away at our system for decades now with one court case after another. Lawsuits limiting or eliminating public prayer, forbidding the teaching of creationism, etc. They seek to first of all remove God from the public square, and eventually from society. Why? If a person has no solid moral foundation on which to base his or her life, they can be told anything you want them to believe. Morals become relative. They also seek to “dumb down” the level of education so that the average person on the street will believe whatever is put in front of them via the media outlets that they control. Have you ever watched any of the Jay Walking segments on the Tonight Show when Leno was on? They are funny until you realize that these people who can’t answer the simplest of questions are now becoming adults in our society. Some will argue that these are just a few people chosen for that television segment. I’ll tell you from daily experience that most of the younger generation coming out of high schools and colleges today has vastly different education levels and mindsets than my generation, and I dare say yours. They have been taught WHAT to think, not HOW to think.

    The schools have been and are becoming increasingly populated with educators who are increasingly left leaning, and many are outright communists. I saw this personally with my college experience nearly 20 years ago, and in communications with students currently in various universities across the land I can tell you that the trend is accelerating. We are seeing the first generation of children who were pushed more aggressively toward the left now beginning to take their place in adult American society, many now as teachers and young graduate students and professors. Not EVERY teacher out there is liberal or a communist, but those who are not are increasingly in the minority and in most cases must keep any conservative view points to themselves or risk losing their jobs.

    While the video in question doesn’t show that there is any ORGANIZED attempt on the part of the Obama administration to indoctrinate our children, there doesn’t have to be. All they have to do is keep chipping away at the iceberg.

    You mentioned that you believe in a bigger role for government. Can you explain what you believe the government is better at doing, and why you believe it? I just want to understand where you are coming from. With our differing viewpoints, understanding one another is one of the keys to honest discourse.

    The rock band is cool. What era of rock do you play? Mostly covers or original? Send me some of your stuff and I’ll post it for the blog visitors to listen to.
    — Gadget

  6. Doc – I very much agree that communism is a terrible system – a system doomed to failure.

    What I don’t believe is that Obama is trying to promote communism or socialism or anything of the sort. As I said earlier, he wants a larger government role – but that falls far far far short of communism.

    I would be right alongside you fighting against him if in fact I believed that was where he was trying to take us.

    — hippieprof

  7. Powerful video, Doc. As the saying goes, “Those who don’t know their history are doomed to repeat it.” That is usually because civilized people who are forced to suppress evil want to forget the ugliness associated with that struggle. When it shows signs of growing again, they don’t want to believe it until it is too late. It is much like controlling weeds in your lawn. Once you get them under control, you must periodically put a pre-emergent on them to keep them from returning and taking over. A little bit of diligence and a small bit of necessary ugliness will prevent history from repeating itself.

  8. Gadget,

    Thanks for the response… I absolutely agree that “Having people from both sides who are honestly willing to present their arguments is the only way real solutions are found.” – that is why I am doing this stuff…

    Most important stuff first – my band is called “Cross the Dog” – we do mostly classic rock with a touch of blues, country, and punk and pop. We do both covers and originals – and in fact have a full CD of originals (and two other CDs under a previous band name). The band website is here:

    http://www.crossthedog.com

    Now – onto mundane things like solving the world’s problems….

    You ask: “You mentioned that you believe in a bigger role for government. Can you explain what you believe the government is better at doing, and why you believe it? ”

    In general I believe in the free market, and I think most of us on the left do as well (this is why I always recoil when I hear my views described as socialism – they decidedly are not). However, I believe that free markets are sometimes frighteningly short sighted. The free market favors profit in the short term over the long term. Companies who go for profit in the short term while ignoring long term issues will out-compete companies taking a longer view – and may in fact put those other companies out of business.

    Pollution is the perfect example. In the short term it is more profitable for companies to pollute their environment (we are seeing that in China right now). In the long term they will destroy their environment – which will of course have devastating effects on their bottom line – and everyone else’s bottom line as well. Unfortunately, a company “going it alone” and being environmentally conscious will be run out of business by those companies not doing so.

    In situations like these, some government intervention is necessary because the free market does not – in fact cannot – take the long view.

    OK – that is probably enough for one post. I have a quick response to your remarks about leftist education. I think there is a HUGE difference between being liberal and being communist/socialist – and I think most of us are the former, not the later. I have spent most of my time over the last 30 years at universities – first as a student and then as a professor. Most faulty (but certainly not all) are indeed liberal. Over that same time I have only met a very small handful of communists/socialists.

    Again, thanks for the conversation.

    — hippieprof

  9. @Hippie,

    I have no doubt you do not “believe” nor see the true purpose of obama’s “plans” for our country, I think there’s a couple of reasons that you don’t.

    1. obama deliberately intends to disguise his true purposes, he intentionally employs deception and diversionary tactics because he knows very well that the vast majority of Americans would never accept nor allow this country to be openly swept into any form of socialism/communism.

    2.I believe that you, and all liberals, are genetically predisposed to think/act/feel as you do. While environment/influence does of course play a part in anyones political persuasions, I am more and more convinced that the majority of it is largely predetermined by genetics. (This also extends to all aspects of ones life, not just political views) I realize my “theory” will seem outlandish to you and many others but, if you’ll do a lil’ factual comparative study, you’ll find substantial validity to my claim. I suggest that you use yourself as “Subject A” in this study, and select any other average Conservative as “Subject B”. Pick 4 or 5 major factors as your analytical criteria; ie…career, politics, etc. Honest and factual comparisons will reveal consistent differences in each test criteria which I firmly believe are almost exclusively determined by genetic factors rather than ones environment and/or influences. Perhaps your position as a Professor could be used to implement a broader study which would produce more defined results? If so, I’d be very interested in knowing the results. 😉

    Back to the subject at hand, Centralized Power is a main tenet of communism/socialism. Governmental control of Industry, Credit, Communications, Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Agriculture are essential to the very structure of any communistic/socialistic form of government. Many aspects of these main tenets were already in place prior to obama taking office, since that time, obama has very rapidly moved to vastly extend and increase governmental control (centralized power) of all sectors of American production and society. The “larger role of government” you eluded to is nothing less than Centralized Power.

    This is just one prime example of how the current administration is in fact attempting to implement communism/socialism through deceptive and subversive policies. I believe obama refers to it as “a fundamental transformation of America”.

    While his attempts at “transformation” may be unrecognized by yourself and the other liberal minded subjects (a small minority) of this “social experiment”, I can assure you it is NOT unrecognized nor supported by the vast majority of Americans.

    These few words do not adequately address and identify the true immensity and dangers of what the leftist radicals within our government and country are attempting to force upon We The People, but you can rest assured in knowing all of this insanity will fail as surely as communism/socialism has miserably failed wherever it has been implemented in the past.

    Doc’

  10. @Texan,

    Hello from a fellow Texan! Many thanks for your comments and all you do via this blog and otherwise. You have my full support and I look forward to many future exchanges. BTW, I’ve added you to my blogroll. Thanks again!

    Doc’

  11. Doc said: 2.I believe that you, and all liberals, are genetically predisposed to think/act/feel as you do. While environment/influence does of course play a part in anyones political persuasions, I am more and more convinced that the majority of it is largely predetermined by genetics. (This also extends to all aspects of ones life, not just political views)

    Doc – no time for a long response at the moment – but I do want to note a coule of serious problems with your genetic theory.

    1) First, I started life as a conservative. I voted for Reagan twice and GHW Bush twice. I gradually migrated to being an independent and finally to being a liberal in the last 8 years. I suspect your genetic theory would predict more stability in political views?

    2) A genetic theory would predict that I would come from a family line of liberals, no? In fact, as described in my blog post below, I come from a long line of conservatives:

    http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/04/moonbat-patriotism/

    So – I guess that makes me a mutation of some kind?

    — hippieprof

  12. @Hippie,

    LOL…No, I don’t think you’re a “mutant”.

    Perhaps you were initially conservative due to “forced” indoctrination of conservative views from your “long line of conservative” family members?
    Perhaps the reverse is true in relation to your recent change of political position?
    Interestingly, a “conservative” “hippie” does seem to be a rather contradictory term in the first place. Is it possible you have often experienced deep internal conflict throughout your life? (Just asking)
    In either case, I will not even pretend to know the answers to such complex questions.

    I do also find it very interesting that you would make such a drastic reversal at your age, especially considering the dramatic differences between Reagan/Bush vs obama. Did you suffer a traumatic head injury in the last 8 years? LOL

    All kidding aside, I suspect your recent reversal has more to do with an overload of longterm liberal indoctrination which you have no doubt experienced in your position as Professor. Couple that with a justifiable discontent associated with GW’s Presidency, as well as the Republican Party’s virtual abandonment of traditional conservative principles…and you have a plausable “answer” to the above questions.

    Regarding “predictable stability”, stability can be effected by numerous factors. Despite any potential alterations, temporary or otherwise, one would remain either conservative or liberal at their “core”. This means there is still hope that you will eventually experience a complete recovery from your present condition. my friend 😉

    In the end, it’s all just speculation at best. I reckon that’s why it’s called “theory”. 😉 Thanks for entertaining my lil’ “theory”!

    Doc’

  13. Doc,
    Welcome aboard! Staying informed, engaged, and doing all we can to educate people about the truth concerning conservatism and liberalism is probably the best we can do at this point. As I often say, be a citizen, not a subject. I enjoy the conversations with conservatives such as yourself, and with people like Mr. HippieProf who are honestly willing to engage in debate. Regardless of your point of view, if bring facts to the table you will have my attention. Basing your side of a debate on emotion alone will garner dismissal.

    Let’s get to work!
    Gadget

  14. From a third party perspective, there are some valid nuggets on both sides of this argument. While an intriguing theory, I too am a little skeptical of the hereditary theory of liberalism. However, I’m open to the possibility. Do you each have more data to support your assertions?

    Gadget

  15. Hello Gadget,

    Thanks for the welcome, I too enjoy and appreciate intelligent conversation, as rare as it is. 😉 Regarding “educating people”, sadly, I figure that’s a pretty futile hope in most cases. We may have a few small successes but, the majority are either dead set in their political views or, they’re just too dang dumb to receive any actual education. (Can ya tell I’m a skeptic?)

    As for my lil’ “theory of genetic predisposal” I’m still convinced that there’s some strong evidence to support it. Take for example our mutual friend Hippie, based on his previous statements, I am forced to concede that he may not be the “perfect test subject” but, I will point out 2 distinct factors about Hippie that do in fact fit very well with the “typical” liberal mindset.

    1. Hippie chose as his career to be a College Professor. I think even he will admit that the larger majority of Professors in this country are in fact liberal. A certain percentage of that group are even extremely radical leftists who have been highly instrumental in promoting and conducting radical policies which IMHO threaten the well being of our nation…not to mention the millions of young, impressionable minds they have deliberately indoctrinated with what you and I would consider socialist/marxist/communist brainwashing, kinda like what’s seen in the video above but on a much grander scale. Fact is, every level of our so-called “educational system” is populated with radical leftists who deliberately misuse their positions to deceptively influence and corrupt the minds of the most innocent and vulnerable of all…Our Children! The video above is a perfect example of my claim, and I staunchly stand by that claim in spite of those who claim otherwise. (There’s lots more to be said on this subject, but I will defer for now)

    2. Hippie has chosen as his hobby to be a musician, while I don’t contend that all musicians are liberal, it’s easily established that again, a larger majority are in fact liberal. Artists and musicians have long been known to hold primarily liberal beliefs, I assert that this is directly related to a genetic factor more so than any other. If this is not true, why then are there not almost equal numbers of each persuasion involved in music and art? Or in education for that matter? I’m reminded of an old saying,…”Those who can not do……teach”.
    I reckon there’s some solid reasoning connected to that, perhaps even a genetic connection. 😉

    I don’t claim to be an expert on any given issue, least of all this particular issue but, I can confidently claim that after many years of close observation and personal experience…I do very much believe there are in fact distinct genetic factors involved in the overall development and decision making processes for each of us. Environment does indeed play a part and may even intervene in the natural process to some extent but….in the end, we are all prisoners of our own genes.
    Of course I have no “proof” nor “data” to substantiate my claims but, based on my personal observations and experience I am confident my lil’ theory has solid grounds for validity, or at the very least adequate grounds for further investigation to either confirm or dispute it. Perhaps some psychological expert has even already done such a study. (?)

    Now for a much more constructive and relevant part of the conversation; I bring to your attention Mr. Canyon Clowdus of Marble Falls, Texas. Canyon is running against Mike Conaway for the 11th District of Texas Congressional seat. Canyon is a non-politician who decided to run for office because he feels our government is out of control and should be returned to its rightful place…Back In The Hands of We The People! I support his campaign and will cast my vote for him because I believe as he does.

    This may be especially interesting to you if you too are a resident of the 11th District. In any case, I offer you this video so you can make your own decisions. Below the video you will find a link to Canyon’s website for further info.

    Thanks again my new friend, many happy returns!

    Doc’

    Website: > http://canyonclowdus.com/

  16. For me the switch to liberalism was much more nurture than nature. I was raised in an isolated environment where the only black people at my school were the children of Lenny Wilkins’ (the NBA hall of famer) and the “poor” kids were still substantially above median income levels. Naturally, I absorbed some pretty conservative values at home. They weren’t really forced on me – it is just the way it was.

    After leaving home for college I was exposed to a much broader environment (I won’t use the term diverse – I know that is a hot button) and I realized that a lot of the conservative assumptions I had grown up with were just plain wrong – or at very least simplistic.

    I hung around at independent a long time but finally took on the title “democrat” after the Iraq invasion revealed that there were no WMDs. I felt personally burned on that one – I had gone out on a limb to support the invasion (a relatively brave thing to do as a college professor) believing nobody could be stupid enough to invade in the absence of WMDs – only to find out that in fact we were stupid enough to do just that.

    — hippieprof

  17. My theory of people is that all people can be placed in one of three categories: shepherds (good guys/protectors), wolves (bad guys/predators) or sheep (just getting by). Without expanding much on the topic (I think most thinking people can figure it out pretty easily), I’ll say that statistically speaking I have yet to find any adult in the nearly 26 years since the formulation of this social theory who does not fit into one of these categories. Some will display characteristics of more than one category from time to time, but being all three is not possible.

    There are some parts to your theory that immediately have merit, but may still need to be fleshed out more with a little research and statistical analysis. Your second point about musicians and artistic people having liberal tendencies actually has some scientific data to back it up. It would take some digging to find the research, but I actually read something about the development of the brain which showed that people whose brains develop more of the musical/artistic traits also tend to think and react more based upon emotional responses. That would indeed fit with my observations, along with many others whom I have read and listened to which show that most (but not all) liberals tend to base their political arguments on emotion rather than cold, hard facts. It’s not quite the “if a = b, and b = c, then a = c” kind of rock solid argument, but there is a correlation that is worth exploring. Some notable exceptions would be many of the country musicians and some of the minority in Hollywood who are staunch conservatives. That might bring up another question about one type of music either causing or stemming from ideological leanings, but I won’t go there yet 🙂

  18. That would indeed fit with my observations, along with many others whom I have read and listened to which show that most (but not all) liberals tend to base their political arguments on emotion rather than cold, hard facts.

    I think you would need to run a controlled study with a double-blind to assess that one. In fact, I tend to think just the opposite – that conservatives use more emotional arguments.

    I think the truth is that we use different sets of emotions. Liberals tend to get emotional about the poor and downtrodden. Conservatives tend to get emotional over fears that big government will lead to socialism and a loss of freedom.

    Both sets of emotions are irrational at times….

    — hp

  19. HP,
    I can’t make myself agree with you on who uses emotional arguments more often, but I would indeed like to see a REAL unbiased study (if there is such a thing any more) to definitively answer the question. I wouldn’t say that we use different SETS of emotions, but that we get EMOTIONAL about different things. We all get emotional when innocent people suffer. Conservatives DO fear big government because by definition it means that we lose freedoms. I won’t say that ALL liberals use emotion as a weapon, but the liberal political leadership certainly does. Conservatives manipulate people with fear as well, but here’s the difference. Liberals say “If you don’t give us such and such power or authority, then children will die/the earth will warm/polar bears will drown/etc.” It’s always about giving THEM power. Conservatives (at least REAL conservatives) use fear to keep power away FROM government. Conservatives believe in the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES of individuals. They don’t believe in subsidizing failure. From individual failure usually comes success when there is no expectation of a handout. Businesses either adapt and improve, or fail making room for better businesses. Individuals learn from failures and eventually build success. With reasonable certainty I can say that NOT ONE of the people that either of us would view as “successful” made it big on their first try. They were fired from various jobs, had various ventures fail, and eventually found a formula for success developed from the lessons of their individual failures. But the key is they kept trying. They didn’t give up, or look to someone else to bail them out.

    “Nights In the Garage” has some interesting tunes on it. You guys have a pretty good “party band” sound. That’s meant as a compliment, just in case that wasn’t the sound you were going for. I’d definitely throw back a few cold ones with my friends and listen to you jam. It would make for a cool evening.

    — Gadget

  20. Gadget said I won’t say that ALL liberals use emotion as a weapon, but the liberal political leadership certainly does. Conservatives manipulate people with fear as well, but here’s the difference. Liberals say “If you don’t give us such and such power or authority, then children will die/the earth will warm/polar bears will drown/etc.” It’s always about giving THEM power. Conservatives (at least REAL conservatives) use fear to keep power away FROM government. Conservatives believe in the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES of individuals.

    You will be surprised to know that I agree with quite a lot of this.

    I am a firm believer in personal responsibility – and I suspect I depart from some of my fellow liberals on this one.

    On the other hand, I also think that personal responsibility only really works when there is equal (or relatively equal) opportunity. My personal pet peeve is education. The way we fund public education in this country virtually guarantees that wealthy communities have better educational opportunities than poor communities. Students in those poor communities have fewer opportunities because of that poor education, which puts them right back into the cycle of poverty and its associated ills of crime, drug use, teen pregnancy.

    If we could get to a point where we truly had equal opportunity – starting with equal education – I suspect you would find my views quite a bit closer to your own.

    — hippieprof

    P.S. Thanks for the kind words on the band. Indeed, I see us as a “party band” – there is nothing like playing in front of a crowd having a great time. The CD is badly in need to remastering – which I hope we will be doing soon. It will sound quite a lot better when we finish that.

  21. Gadget,

    I completely agree with your concise and valid assessment of the issue at hand, well done my friend! I still firmly believe that we are all “hard wired” to think and act as we do based on genetics much more so than environmental influences. Perhaps our mutual agreement on such issues is further validation of the previously mentioned “theory”.

    As for the fear factor, I believe liberals are far more susceptible to the effects of fear than conservatives are. I also believe that is exactly why liberals use it as a weapon to persuade those they want to influence. (whether it be for political purposes or otherwise) Again, this is an example of how liberals as a whole, are predisposed to think and act in specific and predictable ways. As you accurately pointed out, there are distinct differences between rational fears and perceived fears and in how either “party” perceives and deals with it.

    In essence, I maintain that conservatives are more logic based thinkers, while liberals are more emotional based thinkers. Interestingly, I will point out that this is also true of the critical differences between male vs female response/thinking patterns. All in all, this is a most intriguing and interesting subject and I too would very much like to investigate any research or clinical studies previously done on this subject. (If any exist) Surely someone, somewhere, has explored this subject.

    [Although I think this survey is far too vaguely worded and therefore prone to produce innaccurate results, I did take the test and offer you this link to the site which “studies” some aspects of the theories and premise we are discussing. > http://www.yourmorals.org/
    You’ll have to do a brief registration and agree to participate in the study to access the info ]

    Again Gadget, thanks for an interesting discussion and for allowing me to share my personal views.

    Now, @Hippie,

    Based on your comments I tend to believe you are more A-typical of the average liberal and suspect you have often experienced some rather serious internal conflicts on numerous issues other than just politics. In either case, I don’t really think you represent a “true” liberal on most levels. I also suspect you will eventually experience another reversal of your political beliefs in the future. As I said, “there’s still hope for you my friend”. 😉

    Regarding your assertion that “The way we fund public education in this country virtually guarantees that wealthy communities have better educational opportunities than poor communities. Students in those poor communities have fewer opportunities because of that poor education, which puts them right back into the cycle of poverty and its associated ills of crime, drug use, teen pregnancy.”

    I strongly disagree with your claims on this issue. While this may have been true in the past, today, ANYONE who wants to attend college and/or other types of continued/advanced education have tremendous access to multiple forms of financing through grants, garaunteed student loans and other means. I live in a small college town which is home to a long established Christian University, nearly 65% of all registered students here were able to attend solely by virtue of their access to readily available financing. This particular University is considered to be one of the highest rated colleges in America based on it’s demanding curriculum and educational standards. Furthermore, it’s tuition costs are even more expensive than many more “prestigious” Universities like Harvard or Yale. “Equal access” to proper education is more possible and easy to obtain than ever before.

    Furthermore, if the children of “wealthy” parents (who pay for the childrens educations out of their OWN pockets) are able to benifit from that good fortune, I see nothing wrong with that. For ANYONE to expect, muchless DEMAND, that they should have all the priviliges and opportunities of those more fortunate than themselves is simply ridiculous and absolutely unjustifiable! It’s this very kind of thinking that defines the typical liberal perspective of “entitlement” which they believe is a RIGHT simply because they exist as a human being. Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth!

    I’ll have to stop here for now as I have things to do but, I’m sure there will be much more said on these matters. 😉

    Doc’

  22. doc said… I strongly disagree with your claims on this issue. While this may have been true in the past, today, ANYONE who wants to attend college and/or other types of continued/advanced education have tremendous access to multiple forms of financing through grants, garaunteed student loans and other means.

    I was actually talking more about K-12 than college education. I agree that especially with the diversity push in colleges that there are ample college opportunities.

    However – and I say this from direct observation of my students – there are great differences in the degree of preparation in kids from the rich suburban schools and kids from the inner-city schools. Poorer kids also typically have to work while in school, so they have less time and energy to devote to their studies.

    If the playing field were leveled at the K-12 level I like to think that some of these differences would vanish and the impoverished kids would have a greater chance of breaking the cycle.

    You go on to say:

    Furthermore, if the children of “wealthy” parents (who pay for the childrens educations out of their OWN pockets) are able to benifit from that good fortune, I see nothing wrong with that. For ANYONE to expect, muchless DEMAND, that they should have all the priviliges and opportunities of those more fortunate than themselves is simply ridiculous and absolutely unjustifiable! It’s this very kind of thinking that defines the typical liberal perspective of “entitlement” which they believe is a RIGHT simply because they exist as a human being. Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth!

    I agree with you to some extent – certainly people who work hard and do well and earn their money should have the right to benefit from it. I absolutely agree.

    But I also think people over-estimate how much their success is due to their hard work and under-estimate how much is due to blind luck and hereditary privilege. I know all about hereditary privilege because I was born with it – and although I certainly appreciate the advantages it has given me I don’t think it is something I deserve more than the next guy.

    Finally, people underestimate the degree to which their society contributes to their success. It isn’t something you do all on your own, even though it may seem like it.

    I actually wrote a couple of blog posts on this a while back. I am sure you won’t like them – but they probably do a better job of explaining my views that I have room for here.

    This one is about health insurance:

    http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/08/29/why-do-i-deserve-better-health-care-than-the-other-guy/

    This one is about debt to society in general:

    http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/

    So – as I said, I suspect you won’t like the ideas I express there – but I am interested in your opinion.

    — hippieprof

  23. Hippie/Doc,
    The point I believe both of you may be missing is what our K-12 public education has devolved into, not how much money is thrown at it in various districts. But I’ll talk about that as well since it is yet another shining example of the failure of government.

    The government, spearheaded mostly by the left, has intruded and interfered with our school systems over the last half century to the point that we are graduating illiterate children. Using money/aid/etc. as leverage, the government has increasingly come to dictate the subject matter taught in our schools. And what is worse, rather than simply teach and let kids learn and progress according to their abilities, the schools have been forced into an outcome based education system that teaches to the lowest common denominator. The truly bright and gifted children are held back and “dumbed down” to the level of the slowest child in the class. Rather than teaching children math, science, how to read, and write, our (public) schools have become indoctrination camps teaching curricula forced upon them by a government that holds the purse strings. Our public schools should not be teaching “alternative lifestyles,” blocking or promoting specific religions (that’s for the private schools), or any other of the social engineering crap that has tumbled our school systems so far down the mountain in relation to many other developed nations around the world. We should be teaching our children HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

    Speaking of money, those same control-seeking liberals keep screaming that we don’t spend enough on education, to which I will reply “DEFINE YOUR TERMS.” The amount of money collected every year by our (lack of) education department is enough to pay for the private education of nearly every child in this country. The problem is that the same government that has wasted the majority of a trillion dollars on a stimulus that only stimulates political allies, the same government that has ALREADY mismanaged GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE so badly that is is billions of dollars in the red, the same government that can’t run a postal service at a profit, the same government that created the Department of Energy to break our dependence on foreign oil BACK IN THE 1970’s, can’t efficiently spend money. The can very efficiently WASTE money, which they demonstrate daily. The billions of dollars in tax revenue collected from you and I every year to pay for kids in other parts of the country NEVER MAKES IT TO THE CLASSROOM. Most of it is siphoned off to pay additional “administrators,” political appointees and “educational agencies” that add no value to the educational process. When many elementary school teachers are making between $20K and $40K per year and still having to buy many of the supplies from their own paychecks, it’s easy to see that the stream of educational dollars has been dammed far upstream from the classroom. God bless the passionate teachers who do their best to educate our children in spite of the road blocks. The Washington bureaucrats don’t give a crap about schools at the local level, unless their kids are attending them. (Obama and the school voucher program for the school where his little girls go which HE DID NOT RENEW should ring a bell.) As long as they can say they voted for more money for education, their good to go. They don’t know or care where or how that money is spent. Hence the abuse.

    That is EXACTLY why I believe that education is a LOCAL issue. If my neighbors and I CONSENT to pay taxes for our children’s education rather than simply pay for our children’s education out of our own pockets, that money should be used in the community and school that our kids attend. The centralized government in Washington has demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can’t spend my money effectively, and more often than not simply can’t be TRUSTED with my money. There would be no limits to the education kids can receive were it not for the limits imposed by government, and by the lack of willingness of some parents to do what it takes to get and pay for that education.

    As to the “hereditary privilege” issue, I want to be clear on exactly what you mean there. Do you mean that your color or race makes you more privileged? Or are you saying that you were born to wealthy parents? Race is only important to those who use it as an excuse, and being born to wealthy parents is nothing to feel guilty about. Odds are, they EARNED it. Since when is EARNING anything or becoming successful something to feel guilty about? That is a tactic of many on the left to divide and conquer, and gain more power as I discussed earlier.

    Whether it be in education or business, God or the constitution never promised we would be happy, rich, own a home, get free health care, have a car, or be well educated. Our constitution guarantees us life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. It means we all go to the starting line of the race together, but some people will naturally finish that race faster. Outcome based life, like outcome based education, is a fantasy concocted by people with far too much time and far too little real life experience on their hands. The two ideas are anti-matter in relation to the matter of reality.

  24. Gadget,

    Again, I completely agree with everything you said and I greatly admire your ability to convey your thoughts so accurately through the written word. I myself am a much better speaker than I am a writer, writing and correctly conveying my meanings is a fairly tedious and time consuming effort . I tend to have too many seperate points I try to address (like I would if I were talking) and I end up struggling with trying to limit my focus to one point at a time. It’s really very frustrating for me as I am accustomed to being able to address multiple subjects simultaneously when speaking. But enough about my inadequacies with the written word.

    Your comments have almost perfectly described the facts of the multiple layers of problems associated with our so-called “education” system, so much so in fact, that I can not further offer anything worthwhile except to say that I believe all of the elements you mentioned are not just symptomatic of an overall failure of the government and society, but also that the “failure” was by design…intentional.
    Yes, many aspects were brought about by “coincidental” or inevitable circumstances but, the overall degradation was directly caused by a deliberate plan of subversion which began long ago.

    I realize that by introducing this subject into the conversation, it will open the door to a much broader discussion which will take us well away from the original topic/context. But, I believe almost all of our previous discussion can be directly linked to certain intentional acts of subversion which were meant to create, and cause, the very ailments and/or degradations we are addressing. Suffice to say, a longstanding battle for the “hearts and minds” of Americans has brought us all to where we are today.

    With sincere apologies, I must stop here for now as I am too tired to continue without deteriorating into a blathering jumble of meaningless jibberish. (Perhaps I already have?) I’ll start again tomorrow with fresh eyes ASAP.

    And to Hippie, I’ll have a few choice words for you as well my friend. 😉

    Doc’

  25. Doc said…. Yes, many aspects were brought about by “coincidental” or inevitable circumstances but, the overall degradation was directly caused by a deliberate plan of subversion which began long ago.

    Doc – so you seriously believe this? You are aware that it comes across as a paranoid conspiracy theory?

    Who were these crazed individuals who sought to intentionally undermine the integrity of our education system – and furthermore, how did they go about doing it?

    There must have been a lot of them to cause such a widespread dysfunction – this is not something that could have been caused by a few well-placed agitators. No – there had to be a large-scale network, acting within federal, state and local governments…..

    They had to communicate somehow as well – because such nefarious plans would need to be organized lest the different field agents work against each other.

    It is amazing that such a huge, widespread network has managed to infiltrate our educational system and enact their nefarious plan to destroy education – all without being detected directly…..

    Do you write spy novels? I suspect there is a good story to be had here….

    — hp

  26. Gadget said…. Speaking of money, those same control-seeking liberals keep screaming that we don’t spend enough on education, to which I will reply “DEFINE YOUR TERMS.”

    I am speaking mostly about inner-city schools with a poor tax base. Have you ever seen these schools? Deteriorating facilities in frighteningly bad neighborhoods? Typically staffed by poorly qualified teachers because more able teachers won’t work there?

    The first thing that needs to be done is to bring the quality of these schools up to the quality found just a few miles in the more affluent suburbs. You say that education is a local issue – fine – then define local. I would argue, for example that no school within the greater Chicago should be any better funded than any other. The existing disparity is amazing – you have some of the worst schools in the nation just a few miles away from some of the best. Call it a moral issue, but to me that just isn’t right.

    As to the “hereditary privilege” issue, I want to be clear on exactly what you mean there. Do you mean that your color or race makes you more privileged? Or are you saying that you were born to wealthy parents? Race is only important to those who use it as an excuse, and being born to wealthy parents is nothing to feel guilty about. Odds are, they EARNED it. Since when is EARNING anything or becoming successful something to feel guilty about? That is a tactic of many on the left to divide and conquer, and gain more power as I discussed earlier.

    Yes – I do believe that being white gives me extra privileges. These is a substantial literature supporting exactly this point. Obviously, I don’t have to deal with overt racism – but that isn’t even really what I mean. These is a substantial amount of unconscious, covert racism in our so0ciety that gives me advantages over a similarly skilled black person, all else help equal. I don’t think that is right.

    Yes – my parents worked hard and were able to give me advantages – but there was also plenty of blind luck. For example, in the 1950s they moved into “the country” to get cheaper housing – and ended up getting in on the ground floor of what has become an amazingly affluent community – that house I grew up in is about a mile from where Bill Gates now lives. My parents thus made a killing on the real estate – but it really just was luck.

    When I was about 5 my father survived a very serious automobile accident. Had he died, or become disabled, I would certainly not have grown up with the advantages I had. I have a good friend who had a very similar childhood to mine – until at age 7 her parents were both killed in an automobile accident. She grew up a ward of the state and started life with almost no advantages – and despite a lifetime of hard work she still has very little to show for it.

    Why am I more deserving of my privilege than she is?

    I can go on with more examples – but you get the point.

    I do want to speak to local control of school curricula – and will get back to that at some point – but I have to run for now.

    — hippieprof

  27. Hippie,

    Since I know I didn’t complete my previous comments and provide any history or referrences to substantiate my claims (simply because it would take reams of text and time that I don’t have to spare) I can see how you could easily have thought I sounded a lil’ paranoid so I will cut you some slack with regard to your condescending insults and smartassed (but oh so typical) remarks.

    Beyond that, your obvious ignorance of the history and facts related to my “paranoid” claims does not surprise me. (I reckon it’s actually equal parts ignorance and willfull refusal to recognize reality) I can provide a one word answer to your complacent questions…..Communists.

    Clarifying and substantiating my answer will literally take days of writing and evidence which I simply do not have the time, nor the inclination to provide. In lieu of that, I suggest you study up on the origins and purposes of the earliest arrivals of communists in this country. Hint: They didn’t come from Russia. You can start with the late 1800’s early 1900’s and go from there.

    Oh but wait, you still deny that there are any communists within our government and educational systems even to this day. My bad, just forget I ever mentioned it instead.

    But before I go, (I have a political campaign to attend to as I am a man of action rather than whining and playing the blame game) one last comment regarding certain previous suspicions on my part…you said >>

    “Why am I more deserving of my privilege than she is? ”

    Could that be some of the ” rather serious internal conflicts on numerous issues other than just politics” that you seemingly allow to continue to confuse and distort your personal and political identity?

    Perhaps some diligent study on both of the above subjects is in order?

    I wish you the best of luck in your long journey out of darkness my friend. 😉

    Doc’

    P.S. Gadget ,I’ll get back with you ASAP, assuming you are interested in talking to a “paranoid, conspiracy theorists” like me that is. 😉

  28. Doc….

    I am out of town for a couple of days, and probably won’t have internet access. Before I leave I did want to apologize if my post came off as mean-spirited. I was indeed being sarcastic, but it was a friendly sarcasm, if you know what I mean….

    😉

    Carry on in my absence – I am sure I will have some interesting reading to do when I return.

    — hp

  29. HP,
    What you say about inner city schools feeds directly into my point, and also scratches a few more scabs about liberal government policy and the destruction of the American family. With the billions of dollars in taxes we collect annually for schools, why are these schools still so decrepit, crime-ridden, and staffed with poorly qualified and under paid teachers? Why have the tax dollars and government promises actually allowed our education system to become systemically worse? Why are the crime and family problems disproportionately higher in the communities who rely on government subsidized housing, and whose primary incomes are government subsidies and welfare? I will point to the recent episode of the young black honor student being beaten to death in CHICAGO by local black gang members, many of whom “attended” the same school as symptomatic of the failure of government in America. Where are the parents in the lives of these miscreants? They haven’t been there since day 1 because they believe it is the guv’ment’s problem. As Hillary Clinton said, they believe “it takes a village.” They get “free” money from the guv’ment and rather than strive to improve their lives through hard work, many simply settle into a life of poverty and laziness. To escape the gravitational pull of government dependence takes a great deal of self sacrifice and hard work, the values our nation was founded on.

    You said “I am speaking mostly about inner-city schools with a poor tax base.” Why is the tax base so poor? It’s because you have a community of people, a segment of society who have learned to live with their hands out largely due to the misguided efforts of our government. I point to the simple economic truth that GOVERNMENT CAN NOT PRODUCE WEALTH. People living on welfare don’t pay taxes, they receive taxes. People who receive things for free typically don’t appreciate or take care of those things, nor can they afford to in this case. Those parents who have settled into the life of the welfare state rather than demonstrating a solid work ethic and the level of sacrifice necessary to improve their lives are teaching their children by example that “society owes us.” They teach their children that they are “victims.” They teach them that not having what they want is not their fault, and that it is OK to take it. They doom them to a vicious cycle and self fulfilling prophecy of poverty. These are the destructive end results of dependence on government.

    Your guilt over your own skin color is another classic symptom and byproduct of liberalism. Being white doesn’t make you a better person, nor does being black make you lesser of a person. It is indeed the character of a man which defines him. Some liberals feel guilt over their skin color and feel that they (and by inference all white people) should somehow make amends. Other liberals as I have discussed earlier feel no guilt at all, feel they are indeed superior, but use skin color as a wedge to divide America into more easily controllable segments. Black people in America have had the opportunity to better their lives and their communities, and gain true equality ever since slavery was abolished in this country. It was never going to be an easy road, but many took up the yoke of that struggle and made great strides towards that equality. G.W. Carver, and others like him took advantage of educational opportunities, and most importantly didn’t quit when faced with old prejudices and roadblocks. There were certain elements of white society, largely represented by democrats, that couldn’t stand the thought of black equality and did (and still do) everything they could to prevent it. Historically speaking, contrary to the spin coming out of the mouths of modern democrats, it has been democrats and the left who governmentally and institutionally speaking kept, and keeps racism alive. A simple search of Wikipedia will find many of these facts. They are not secret, just not presented accurately and honestly by the media. The KKK, George Wallace, Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia: All Democrat persons or organizations. The KKK was founded to resist Reconstruction following the (not so) Civil War by assaulting, murdering and intimidating freedmen and white Republicans. Senator Robert Byrd was not only a member of this organization, but was a Kleagle (recruiter) and an Exalted Cyclops. Yet not a peep from liberals is EVER made about this affiliation while they continue to spread their lies about who the REAL racists in this country are. Here are some of Byrd’s own words:

    “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”
    — Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

    George Wallace was elected Governor of Alabama in 1962 as a DEMOCRAT and hardcore segregationist. His famous words from his inaugural speech:

    “In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”
    — George Wallace, from his inaugural speech following his 1962 election as Alabama Governor

    Many blacks have struggled through and shrugged off the yoke of liberal oppression to better themselves and their families. I won’t pretend that racism doesn’t exist. I know from firsthand experience that it does after growing up in a George Wallace Alabama and living all over the country, as well as in Europe. I can tell you that racism does indeed exist in America, but can authoritatively tell you that it is not limited to America, and it’s not just whites against blacks. However, much of the racism that does exist in America is because of the divisive policies of liberals/democrats, and because of race baiters like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who are little more than useful idiots for the democrats. They portray themselves as leaders of the black community, but are doing little more than getting kickbacks and running extortion schemes to fan the flames of racism while making themselves rich. The race baiters leading blacks into covert oppression by liberal laws with really nice sounding names is little more than modern slavery. But much of that is by personal choice. Again, the destructive end results of dependence on government.

    When you speak of the “privilege” of your family in relation to the family of the girl whose father was killed, you may be confusing “privilege” with “chance.” Sometimes bad things happen to people because of choices that they make. But sometimes it’s just the way things are. They fact that your life was ultimately more successful than hers is no reason to feel guilty. Blessed, yes. Guilty, no. When we are blessed in abundance we should help those who are less fortunate. But this should be a choice, not forced. When you continue to force people to give to things they do not believe in via taxation and other means, those people have less money left to be charitable with, and less motivation to charitable with it. We are still the most charitable nation on earth, but as we are driven toward a socialist economy and communist like state, that will come to a screeching halt as the government controls more and more of our money.
    — Gadget

  30. Hey Gadget…..

    Sorry for the slow response – I have been out of town….

    You say: What you say about inner city schools feeds directly into my point, and also scratches a few more scabs about liberal government policy and the destruction of the American family. With the billions of dollars in taxes we collect annually for schools, why are these schools still so decrepit, crime-ridden, and staffed with poorly qualified and under paid teachers?

    ummmmm….. I don’t know about where you live, but here it is because our schools are financed by taxes paid on a district-by-district basis? This allows an inner-city district to exist with a suburban schools in different districts. The suburban schools are thus richer and can afford better facilities and can lure better teachers.

    Isn’t it that way where you live?

    You go on…. Why are the crime and family problems disproportionately higher in the communities who rely on government subsidized housing, and whose primary incomes are government subsidies and welfare?

    You seem to be trying to draw causation from correlation – are you actually trying to suggest that subsidized housing leads to crime? How about poverty causes crime, and subsidized housing exists where there is poverty?

    To escape the gravitational pull of government dependence takes a great deal of self sacrifice and hard work, the values our nation was founded on.

    Indeed it does. Try this one on. Most immigrant groups have managed to assimilate quite well after several generations, and in fact hard work has paid off. The story is not the same for African Americans, who remain largely as an underclass almost 150 years after slavery has ended.

    It seems like there are two possible interpretations….

    First, there could be something wrong with blacks as a race. Obviously, that is a racist statement and obviously I do not believe it is the case. I believe that there are quite a few people who do believe this, though.

    Alternatively, there could be something in our society which has prevented blacks from assimilating in the same way as the Irish and the Italians and the Polish and other lighter-skinned races. That something is called racism, and indeed it is alive and well in our society. I am glad you see that it exists as well. I am not entirely sure you see how pervasive it is, though.

    (I know – you think it is the government doing this – I would remind you that blacks were well established as an underclass long before government assistance programs came into being)

    I think this is one reason I am so sickened by the right’s attempt to destroy Obama – and don’t fool yourself – there is an active attempt to do exactly that. Maybe it is racist, or maybe it is just a reaction against a liberal government – but make no mistake – the Limbaughs and the Becks want to take him down and take him down hard. They want to take him down so badly that they actually cheered when we failed to get the Olympics – it makes me sick.

    You yourself have pointed to a black community which does not see the value of hard work and education. Don’t you think we would have a better society if the black community in fact believed in that? Yet – here is Obama – a a shining example of exactly that – that with hard work and education and perseverance you CAN achieve the highest office in the land – regardless of the color of your skin – yet you guys are intent on destroying him.

    What message does that send to the black community? What will it mean to them if you actually do manage to destroy him? I guarantee the message won’t be “oh – he was just too liberal” – no – the message will be “see – nothing changes – that’s what happens when black folk act uppity….”

    Do you really want that? You seem like a reasonable guy, so I would hope not – but that is the message you are sending with blog headlines like “Obama Zombies Brainwashing your Children.”

    To me, having a successful African American president is an opportunity to send a transformational message to a community which in fact does not believe in itself. If that could be accomplished it would be an amazing thing for all of us.

    Yet – you seem intent on destroying him.

    OK – I have probably offended the hell out of you, so I will stop ranting for a bit….

    — hippieprof

  31. HP,
    Welcome back! I hope your trip went well. Now, let’s get right to work.

    “…are you actually trying to suggest that subsidized housing leads to crime? How about poverty causes crime, and subsidized housing exists where there is poverty?”

    No, no, no. Not at all. I obviously didn’t do a good job of connecting the dots. Let me attempt to clarify. Suggesting that subsidized housing or poverty cause crime would be like saying cars cause drunk driving, guns kill people, or spoons made Michael Moore fat. That would be silly. The subsidized housing and crime are merely symptoms of the larger problem. The crime is caused by the attitudes of many of the people living a life dependant on government. Many always view themselves as victims, are always looking for someone else to solve their problems, and looking for someone to blame for those problems. Crime is a choice. Guns don’t pull their own triggers, and cars don’t drive themselves. We all make choices daily, some good and some not so good, and there are ALWAYS consequences for those choices. Rather than take responsibility for their own children, their own families, and their own neighborhoods to create an environment that is safe and children who grow up knowing right from wrong, many living in these conditions just sit back and watch, waiting for someone to come along and solve their problems or give them more money. The government has proven that they can’t fix anything, so those who keep voting in representatives who promise them the moon sit around for waiting for something that will never happen. At what point does one get tired of waiting and start to take charge of his/her own life?

    As for assimilation, again I refer to choices. Yes there is racism, and it is a roadblock to success. As I discussed and documented previously, look at the roots of most of the institutionalized racism and you will find that tree growing squarely in the middle of the democrat party. There are kooks in every party and in every part of the country, but institutionally speaking the racism comes mostly from the left. That being said, there have been many prominent members of the black community who have CHOSEN to go around those roadblocks. A football coach of mine once said “It’s not a sin to get blocked, but it’s a sin to stay blocked.” That adage holds true in every aspect of life, regardless of race.

    As for Obama, the Olympics, and conservative attitudes towards Obama, I can assure you that 99.999% of all resistance to Obama has nothing to do with race. Again, I will say there are a very few nuts out there who don’t like him because of his skin color. They are nut jobs and are to be dismissed off hand. The rest of America that is protesting Obama is doing so because we feel he is taking a hard left turn away from the values that made this country great, and that what he is attempting to do is simply BAD FOR AMERICA. I don’t care what his skin color is, I just don’t like his socialist/Marxist policies. Would John McCain have been any better? Not by much. He is a left leaning windsock who was chosen by the media to be Obama’s opponent. McCain is not a conservative, and in my view would have also been bad for America. Is McCain black or white? Those who have no legitimate inputs to the debate and choose to throw the race card can answer that question because I DON’T CARE! Obama is a well educated man who proves that black people can make it in America, as is Ms. Obama. However, I feel the parts of his education that he CHOSE to retain, and the people he CHOOSES to associate with are indicative of where he wants to take this country, and many of us feel that that direction is into the wilderness.

    As far as “see – nothing changes – that’s what happens when black folk act uppity….”, or black school children getting a negative racial message from Obama’s plight, where are those racial messages coming from? THEY ARE COMING FROM DEMOCRATS AND THE LEFT! Conservatives have bent over backwards to illustrate that the disagreements are about policy and have nothing to do with race, but who continues to play the race card? THE DEMOCRATS AND THE LEFT! It demonstrates that they have nothing substantive to base their arguments on. NONE of the accusations leveled by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have been refuted on merit by the White House or the democrats. When face with the truth, they obfuscate. When Rush said he wanted Obama to fail, he meant he wanted his IDEOLOGY to fail, and he explained that repeatedly for those willing to listen. If you transplant that same ideology into any other person of any color on earth, I would want them to fail as well. Like all conservatives, and a growing majority of independents, and an increasing number of democratic voters, I want to STOP Obama, but I don’t want to DESTROY him. I don’t want to DESTROY anyone except those who want to destroy me.

    Gotta go for now. Off to the J.O.B.

    Cheers and God Bless

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